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Nerve Blocks

:confused:New at this, I had a coder put in 64405, but I believe this should be 64490, anyone please help understand..:confused:

Third Occipital Nerve Block, Cervical Spine Medial Branch Nerve Block
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Pre-operative diagnosis:
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1. Occipital neuralgia of right side M54.81
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Post-operative diagnosis: same
Procedure: right Cervical Spine C2-3 Medial Branch Nerve/Third occipital nerve block between C2-3 (facet) under fluoroscopic guidance
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Indications: This patient has a diagnosis of neck pain due to Occipital neuralgia/headache, Cervicogenic headache and cervical spine spondylosis. Informed consent obtained after explaining the procedure and potential complications including local discomfort, infection, headache, temporary or permanent weakness and/or numbness of one or both legs, temporary or permanent paraplegia, heart attack and stroke. All questions were answered.
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Procedure in detail:
Patient was taken to the procedure room and placed in prone position. Time out was performed. Patient’s right lateral neck/cervical spine area was prepped with Chloraprep and draped in a sterile manner.
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Then, lateral fluoroscopy was used to identify and mark the the center of the C2-3 facet joint on the right side. Additionally, the midpoint of the mid-articular pillars at C2-3 on the right were also marked. Then, under lateral fluoroscopic guidance, a 25 G 3.5 inch spinal needle, was advanced to the targeted points corresponding with the locations of the third occipital nerve.
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Then, after negative aspiration for heme and injection of total 1 ml of Omnipaque contrast, Total 1 mL of lidocaine 1% and 40 mg depomedrol was injected at the target point corresponding to the locations of the third occipital nerve.
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Needle was removed and bandaged placed over site of needle insertion.
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Estimated Blood Loss: None
Specimens: None
Disposition: The patient tolerated the procedure without complaint and was transported to the recovery room in stable condition.
Follow-up: The patient will return as scheduled

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Coding for Nerve Blocks

Have a question related to the CPT 64450 using it once or twice.

In the ED note, the chart shows the below procedures done in one encounter on a patient.

Femoral nerve block (CPT 64447)

Lateral Femoral Cutaneous Nerve (LFCN) block – (CPT 64450)

Obturator nerve block – (CPT 64450)

The question is do we code only one time for LFCN and Obturator block performed on same encounter, or do 64450 x 2. The doctor made separate procedure note for each of the above three.

Thanks in advance for helping me solve this.

Anitha Lingala, CPC, CPMA, CPC-I, CCS

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Nerve blocks

I have an MD who performs nerve blocks as part of his pain management. Frequently he states he’s doing a "saphenous nerve block". This procedure takes several injections from about mid thigh to the calcaneous. In the past he used CPT code 64450 however since Medicare has stopped paying this code without treatment notes (5/1/17) we’ve had mixed results with submitting the notes with the claims. Oddly, this happens with the same DX codes and very similar treatment notes and the same patients only weeks if not months apart..
At times he appears as if he should be using 64447 femeral nerve block but I’m not finding anything that really describes this procedure. He’ll mention that he’s performing a series of injections along the femeral nerve.
Part of me wonders if the problem isn’t the varied manner in which he describes the procedures.
Has anyone had success billing the 64450 to Medicare with reliable results? As to date I’ve appealed this code 20 times in the past few months and only 10 of those claims have been paid. He’s frustrated as am I but I need some guidance.
Thank you

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Bilateral TAP blocks AND Bilateral Rectus Sheath blocks duting same session

Hi,

Provider performed both Bilateral TAP blocks single injections, and Bilateral Rectus Sheath Blocks, single injections. Has anyone had any experience coding for both and not getting it denied?
how would it be billed? 64488-XE, 64488-59 ?? Keep in mind this will be billed w/ 00752 as well.

Thanks,
Ellie

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Can I charge mod sedation for placement of nerve blocks

Hi,
If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated.
I am coding for a hospital; The anesthesiologist is using moderate sedation to place nerve blocks before a surgery. The surgery anesthesia is MAC and I know I can’t charge for the nerve block, but was wondering if I could charge for a facility charge for the mod sedation? I was thinking it’s like when you charge for us guidance used with a nerve block even when you can’t charge for the nerve block.

Any thoughts……

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