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Coding Inpatient and Observation Services in 2023

AAPC leadership answers your questions about reporting and auditing hospital inpatient and observation services in 2023. Attendees at AAPC’s AUDITCON, Nov. 3-4, 2022, came loaded with questions about the coding and guideline changes for evaluation and management (E/M) services in CPT® 2023. The conference offered several sessions on the subject, including “Audit Approach for Hospital […]

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Observation same day admit/discharge but two different providers from same group

Just want to make sure I’m understanding the guideline correctly..

Patient is admitted and discharge on same day by two different providers who belong to the same group practice …

Provider who admitted patient to observation is the one who gets billed with 99234-36 .. ??

Is that correct?

Help please! :confused:

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Initial Observation Care

If all three key elements of the minimum initial observation code are not met, would you instead submit subsequent observation codes or outpatient office codes? (Ex: initial observation case is leveling out to History – EPF, Exam -EPF and MDM – Moderate). Being the lowest level is detailed/detailed/low, I’m not sure how to proceed. Any insight appreciated, thank you!

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23 hr observation in ICU?

We are an independent practice from the hospital, so we sometimes have difficulty communicating with hospital if they change the status of patient stay from inpatient to 23 hr observation or vice versa.

We have a case of patient being admitted to ICU chest pains, 10/10, short of breath but enzymes checked to be negative. Patient was admitted on a Friday afternoon so my guess was case management was not able to precert? (with BCBS).

Patient was discharged on a Sunday.

Our physician was under the impression it was an inpatient at ICU (which at the time of service patient was not in good shape). So we billed it service location as Inpatient.

After a week or so, we looked again at hospital site and discovered patient was changed back to 23 hr observation.

Question:

1. Does the 2 midnight rule apply here or it is not a strictly 2 midnight? Patient admitted noon of Friday discharged Sunday afternoon? How come it was still outpatient 23 hr observation on hospital status?
2. We billed/coded (not sent out yet pending clarification with hospital) inpatient visit 99254 Blue Select ? But should we change it to outpatient visit 99245 to match the hospital status?
3. We are debating if we have hold our claims and double check with hospital if they changed status from OP to IP or vice versa before submitting our claims?
(Too much work but if necessary will do it)

Has anybody experienced this? Suggestions?

Thanks!

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Proper coding for patients seen by a specialist during their observation stay

I just wanted to confirm with the panel the correct way to bill for an exhisting pateint who was seen in the hospital during the observation stay portion prior to being formally admitted as an inpatient. We are an oncology practice and one of our oncologist was asked to consult on a patient for Hematology reasons, while the patient was still registered as being in observation. The physician obliged and saw the patient, but marked teh encounter as an initial inpatient visit (99221-99223).

Per CMS guidelines (PUB 100-04 Claim Processing Manual, Transmittal 2282, section 30.6.8 Payment fo Hosptial Observation Services and Observation of Inpateint Care Services (including admission and discharge), "Payment for an initial observation care code is for all the care rendered by the ordering physician on the date the patient’s observation services began. All other physicians who furnish consultations or additional evaluations or services while the patient is receiving hospital outpatient observation services must bill the appropriate outpatient service codes."

Unfortunately, it does not go into detail on how to code if the patient being seen was already and exhisting patient of the consulting physician. Since we are told to use the appropriate outpatient codes (99211-99215, 99201-99205), the question was asked which would be the more appropriate code type of code, exhisting or new patient? I think an argument could be made for both code types, but my gut feeling is that we are bound by the 3yr rule when using the outpatient codes. Is this the more prudent way to approach these scenarios?

Greg Quinn, CPC, CPPM, CHONC

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Observation and evaluation for a Medicare Patient

Hello, I just joined AAPC to start training for CPC certification . I have a question that has been bugging me that I can’t seem to find an answer to and it may be a dumb one but I have to ask..
I work for an oral surgeons office and went to a AAOMS coding course who said we could use the Z03.89 dx for a non medicare patient and if a patient has the 3 criteria’s met: suspected condition, no signs or symptoms of suspected condition and after study, patient does not have the suspected condition. My question is what if its a medicare patient, I know they will deny this diagnosis is there any other to bill? I can’t bill the suspected condition alone do I use the Z03.89 code and let it deny and patient is responsible?

Thanks for any help,
Sandy

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Facility observation coding in ED- commercial payer

Hi all!

My boss says that code 99218 has to be added multiple times to get reimbursement (added once for every 30 min that the patient is observed) So let’s say the patient was observed for 6 hours, according to her it must be added 12x. Makes no sense to me. Shouldn’t the 99218 be coded just once in this case?

This is for facility coding. I have tried to show her the CPT description that says ‘per day’ but she says that’s for physician billing. Do you guys know of any guideline that I could show her in regards to this? PLEASE advise!! Thanks.

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Outpatient in a Bed…not Observation or Inpatient

If my cardiologist is asked to see a patient at the hospital who is classified as outpatient in a bed…neither inpatient or observation…how do I/can I code for that and what E&M would be used if so? Provider was recently called in to consult a patient as a second opinion for a Watchman and the patient was classified as outpatient in a bed.

Thank you.

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Placement Into Observation Status After Midnight

In the ED setting, if a patient is seen by the ED provider at 11:00pm on one date, for example January 10, then the ED provider decides to place the patient into observation status in the ED at 12:30pm the next calendar day, January 11, does the service date for observation care reflect January 11 rather than the 10th?

Thank you!

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Coding e/m visits in the same day with an admission as observation then as inpatient

A physician sees a patient in his office in the morning and then again early that afternoon at which he send the patient to the hospital in observation status. Later that day he visits the patient in the hospital and admits the patient as full inpatient. Ehat E/M codes are billed for this?

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