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coding recurrent vs primary wrist ganglion removal

Does anyone have any helpful links or resources that explain when to bill recurrent (25112) vs. primary (25111) wrist ganglion removal? My provider always comes back to me stating that ALL ganglions are recurrent and wants to bill recurrent removal 25112 instead of primary 25111 on every patient, regardless of whether or not the patient has had prior treatment on the ganglion. I would like to have some definitive documentation to back up the correct way to bill/code for a ganglion cyst removal. Thanks!

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Ganglion Impar and Coccyx Injection Help

Hello,

Need some feedback on coding this procedure. Just wonder if we can bill separately for the coccyx injection along with 64999 for the Ganglion Impar? Thank You
Melissa Harris CPC
The Albany and Saratoga Centers of Pain Management.

COCCYX INJECTION AND SEPARATE GANGLION IMPAR BLOCK
INDICATIONS: Coccyx pain
ANESTHESIA: Local

DESCRIPTION OF PROCEDURE: With written informed consent obtained, risk and benefits were discussed including but not limited to infection, bleeding, swelling, bone, nerve and joint damage.
The patient was then brought into the operating room with appropriate monitors in place, the patient was placed on the procedure room table in the prone position. Utilizing fluoroscopic guidance, the sacrococcygeal junction was brought into fluoroscopic Anterior Posterior view, a lateral view of the coccyx was then attained. The area was then prepped and drapped in a sterile fashion. A small skin wheel was raised directly over the sacrococcygeal junction using 1 mL of 1% Lidocaine. A 22 gauge 5 inch spinal needle was then advanced downward to the sacrococcygeal junction and entered at the first interspace. At this point after careful aspiration reveals no blood, needle placement is confirmed using 1 ml of 300mg/ml of Omnipaque. 1 mL of a mixture of 2 mL .05% Marcaine, 2 mL Normal Saline, and 1 ml of 40 mg/mL triamcinolone was injected. The needle was then walked downward to the mid-coccyx region where another 2 mL of the above mixture was injected. The needle was again walked downward to the distal coccyx where 2 mL was injected after aspiration revealed no blood. The needle was then placed at the intercoccygeal space and, once dye was used to see the ganglion impar, the remainder of the medication was injected. The needle was then removed, puncture wound was dressed. The patient was removed from the procedure room table in stable condition and brought to the recovery area having tolerated the procedure well.

Fluoroscopic Time: 0-1 minute
PRE-OPERATIVE PAIN SCORE: 7/10
POST-OPERATIVE PAIN SCORE: 7/10
VITALS DURING PROCEDURE: O2 SAT: 95% Heart Rate: 59

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Ganglion Impar RFA

Good afternoon, all,
My physician did an ganglion impar RFA and billed with code 64680, which is for a celiac plexus ablation. I thought at first he had inadvertently "clicked" on the wrong code, so I queried him. He responded: "This was a sympathetic nerve ablation so I assume that this code is correct." I’m still not sold. I have searched on the internet and didn’t find anything. I am leaning toward having to bill this with 64999, but I need to convince my physician that 64680 is not correct. Which of us is wrong? If 64680 is incorrect, can you provide me with the reasoning why. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!

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