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Nail debridement

I have a question regarding codes 11720 and 11721. Do we code based on how many nails are debrided or how many nails are mycotic? My doctor is coding a 11720 because the patient has 4 mycotic toenails even though his documentation states he debrided ten dystrophic toenails. I have read the medicare guidelines and I see that Medicare will only cover services if the nails are mycotic and that it must be documented. The way I see it the doctor worked on all ten so shouldn’t we code a 11721. I am a little confused and would really appreciate any information. Thank you

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debridement help

hello,
Ortho resident performed debridement on a patient. I am thinking to use "11042—debridement subcutaneous tissue 20 sq cm/< "code; however, a physician document only that the eschar was debrided sharply at the bedside.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
thanks,

"right lower extremity is somewhat edematous compared with left. There are 2 wounds now on the lateral aspect of the right thigh. The superior one measures approximately 4 cm in diameter there is a necrotic rim to this lesion. There is no active drainage. The lower wound approximately 2 cm below the larger wound, measures approximately 3 cm in diameter. There is mild necrotic eschar at the periphery this wound is well. Upon probing of both wounds I entered a pocket from the superior wound that tracks superiorly and somewhat posteriorly to a depth of approximately 6 cm, this drained fluid consistent with seroma/fat necrosis. No frank pus. The surrounding eschar was debrided sharply at the bedside. The lower wound was also probed and a pocket was encountered which tracks inferiorly and posteriorly, draining similar fluid. The wounds were irrigated, and packed with a 1 inch Nu Gauze wick covered with a wet-to-dry dressing in the wound cavities and a Kerlix wrap."

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Vulvectomy vs debridement

The surgeon put, procedure Debridement of Fournier’s gangrene. I know that normally that would send me to cpt code 11004. My op note is more detailed than just debridement which gets me to look at cpt codes 56620 to 56633. I lean toward 56625 due to the statement, removal of greater than 80% of the vulvar area.
I think it best to put the op note.

The necrotic tissue was debrided away with combination of sharp and cautery dissection. The necrosis and the initial tuberosities. The soft tissue infection extended to the left the level of the muscle fascia of the adductor compartment. The necrotic tissue was debrided away and the process was noted to have several tunnels of erosion into the vaginal mucosa. The breathing necrotic tissue resulted in the removal of both labia majora as well as some of the vaginal mucosa. The rectum did not appear to be involved. The clitoris was spared, however there was fibrinous exudate covering the surface, calling into question and its long-term viability. The area was copiously irrigated with pulse lavage, and hemostasis was achieved with electrocautery. Extensive tissue loss including both labia majora, the majority the mons pubis, and a significant amount of tissue involving the inner lower extremities. The wound was packed with silver alginate, with the plan to return for diverting colostomy and wound vac at that time.
This is why I don’t feel that 11004 captures the procedure.
Diagnosis code N49.3 which started out as N76.4 on day one of inpatient date.

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Sacral ulcer debridement calculation (x-post from derm)

I need clarification on how to calculate the debridement of a sacral ulcer. The surgeon did not specify the total amount of debrided tissue, but he did give the before and after wound sizes;

"Pre debridement measurements of this full-thickness stage IV ulcer were 9cm long by 8 cm wide by 4 cm deep. There was foul-smelling necrotic tissue at the superior margin and in the depth of the wound. The inferior margin was actually somewhat clean and with evidence of granulation tissue. That caudal or inferior margin was also only about 15 mm away from the anal verge. This also was then sharply debided with the Bovie such that the ultimate wound measurements were 9 cm long by now 10 cm wide by 7 cm deep. The debridement was into subcutaneous fat as well as musculature of the buttock, as well as exposed periosteum of the sacrum in several areas, but no bony debridement was done nor thought to be required as that periosteum appeared to be healthy…"

Surface area of wound before debridement: 9×8 = 72 sq cm
Surface area after debridement: 9×10 = 90 sq cm
Depth of debridement: (7-4) = 3 cm
So (90×3)-72 = 198 sq cm debrided

Am I calculating this right??

If so, I’m suing codes 11044, and 11047×9

Any insight welcome.
Thanks :)

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Debridement of lateral retinaculum knee

Procedures Performed [preop diagnosis was lateral retinacular tear] and scheduled for repair

PRP Injection left knee
Arthroscopy partial meniscectomy 29881
Debridement lateral retinaculum

Need help coding the debridement of the lateral retinaculum. Will highlight that portion of operative note

"No obvious disruption quadriceps tendon. Lateral retinaculum intact. No signs of disruption of lateral retinaculum, some fraying. This was debrided and injected with PRP.

What code could be used for the debridement procedure? Was suggested I use 27425, which is an open lateral release.

Meniscectomy was performed and coded as 29881

Looking for answers and/or explanations.

Thank all in advance

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Open debridement of sternoclavicular joint

Hello everyone, I’m not sure which code to use for an open debridement of the sternoclavicular joint?

OP NOTE:
An incision was made through the previous incision. There was an area of dehiscence medially and using a new #15 blade, the dehisced area was excised in an elliptical fashion for complete excision of the abnormal tissue and cosmetic re-approximation later. At this paint the fistula and infected tissue overlying the sternoclavicular joint was removed. Several Monocryl sutures were identified and removed. 6 liters of saline with antibiotics in the saline solution were used to copiously irrigate the sternoclavicular joint. A curette was used as well as a rongeur to debride between irrigation sessions. All tissue remaining was normal appearing . A rongeur was used to debride the anteromedial aspect of the proximal clavicle, taking the bone and soft tissue to clean tissue. Closure was then described.

Than you

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Help! Arthroscopy, knee with Cartiform grafts and debridement of adhesions

I need help, I am new to Orthopedic coding. The person before me billed 27415, 29875, and 38220. BCBS said 27415 is investigational and is taking their money back. They also said according to the op note, 29875 wasn’t done and they are taking their money back for that too. So, before I can appeal their decision on the 27415 code I need to correct the other coding issue. Should I use 29877 instead of 29875? Any help is appreciated, I am lost.

1. Left knee arthroscopy with limited debridement of adhesions
and chondromalacia with arthrotomy and osteochondral
allograft using Cartiform grafts to medial femur, 28 mm
long, by 19 mm wide, fixed with 6 Arthrex bioabsorbable
fast track 2 mm suture anchors and sutures of bone and
fibrin glue.
2. Osteochondral allograft to medial patella using Cartiform
20 mm disc trimmed slightly, fixed with four Arthrex
bioabsorbable suture anchors and sutures around the
periphery with fibrin glue.
3. Biocartilage to chondral defect, femoral trochlea, mixed
with bone marrow aspiration from left iliac crest, left
knee.
4. Injection of bone marrow aspirate into left knee post
repair of chondral defects.

DESCRIPTION OF PROCEDURE: The patient was taken to the operating
room and was given general anesthetic by Dr. Muthu. Preoperative
antibiotics were given. A left thigh tourniquet was placed, but
initially not inflated. Her left anterior iliac crest and her
left lower extremity were prepped and draped in a routine sterile
fashion.
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An operative time out was taken. The operative site was verified.
The knee was then flexed up without tourniquet and then
inferolateral incision was made. A superior medial outflow portal
was established and an inferomedial portal was established. The
suprapatellar pouch was cleaned. There were small chondral flakes
noted. There was chondromalacia under the patella. There was
chondromalacia in the trochlea. The chondromalacia in the patella
was mostly in the medial side. The lateral facet did not appear
to bad and actually appeared to be in good condition. The femoral
trochlea was mostly chondral, it was superiorly in the central
trochlea. It was estimated to be about 10 mm in width, about 15
mm in length. I then went down to the medial compartment. There
was some slight fraying in the anterior horn of the anterior
medial meniscus at the meniscal capsular junction, and I used the
shaver to smooth this. I then made an inferomedial portal and
inspected the medial meniscus. The meniscus, itself, was intact.
There were no signs of a residual tear whatsoever. As I probed
and inspected the articular cartilage, however, there was a large
area of grade 3 chondromalacia, nearly full-thickness
chondromalacia, in the weight-bearing portion of the femoral
condyle, which appeared quite severe and thinned. This was a
surprise, as I did not notice this much wear on the medial femur
on the x-rays. I felt that this probably should be resurfaced
with Cartiform graft, as well. I then used the probe with marks
to identify the length of the lesion. The lesion was about almost
30 mm in length and about almost 20 mm in width or 18-19 mm.
Since we had an oval graft, 28.5 x 19.0 mm, we felt this would
work for this area. I then inspected the intercondylar notch. The
anterior cruciate ligament and posterior collateral ligament
appeared to be intact. I brought the knee into figure-of-4
position.
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I brought the knee into figure-of-4 position and inspected the
lateral compartment. The lateral meniscus, femur, and tibia were
all in good condition. There were no tears noted.
*
I then brought the knee into full extended position, checked the
trochlea again, and estimated this chondral defect to be about 10
x 15 mm in length, 10 mm in width. It was fairly soft centrally,
grade 3, with chondral flap. I then brought the knee into full
extended position and the chondromalacia in the patella was
present, mostly in the medial side. I placed a 70 degree
arthroscope through the superomedial portal and checked patellar
tracking. The patella did tilt slightly laterally, but this was
where the better cartilage was and I felt this would not be a bad
situation if there was a little bit more tension since I would be
doing a medial arthrotomy and I would be closing this slightly. I
then elected to perform the arthrotomy to do osteochondral
allograft to the medial femur and to the patella and do
biocartilage to the chondral defect in the trochlea.
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At this time, the arthroscopic instruments were removed.
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We then went to the iliac crest to prepare bone marrow aspirate.
I made a small stab incision over the iliac crest and used an
11-gauge Jamshidi needle, which had been flushed with heparin and
continued clotting. I then refilled 3 mL of ACT anticoagulant
with 230 mL syringes. I then used the Jamshidi needle and pocked
through the outer table of the crest of the iliac and in between
the tables to aspirate 30 mL of blood and bone marrow out of the
hip. After 30 mL were aspirated, I redirected the needle to a
different position and aspirated an additional 30 mL. This was
then spun in the centrifuge to obtain about 4 mL of platelet-rich
plasma, bone marrow concentrate.
*
I placed a 4 x 4 over this.
*
I then focused my attention back to the knee. I then
exsanguinated the leg with Esmarch the bandage and inflated the
tourniquet to 300 mmHg. I made a midline incision slightly medial
from just above the superior pole of the patella to just above
the tibial tubercle. The subcutaneous tissue was dissected
medially and slightly laterally. I performed a medial
parapatellar arthrotomy. I took care to not cut the meniscal rim
medially. I carefully teased up the fat pad off the proximal
tibial plateau to expose laterally and evert the patella to
inspect this. As I did so, I could see the lesion on the medial
patella. It involves almost the entire medial facet. I measured
this and it was about 18 mm in diameter. I then used a circle
template and cut with a 15-blade outline and with ring curettes
and straight curettes, removed all the cartilage and removed
calcified cartilage layer off the subchondral bone. I scraped
this and prepared it. The chondral defect in the trochlea was
then cut and I removed all the cartilage to the base of this.
This measured 11 mm by about 15 mm. I then hyperflexed the knee
up and used Z-retractors to retract the medial portion of the
knee and then exposed the chondral defect on the femur, which is
the largest. Again, this measured almost 30 mm in length and 20
mm in width. Fortunately, the Cartiform graft was 28 mm long and
20 mm wide, somewhat oval. I selected this and used this as a
template to remove as much of this area as possible to
incorporate this graft. On this graft, I elected to then drill
holes for anchors. I placed one at the superior apex and
anteriorly and posteriorly in a cruciform at approximately the
10:00 and 4:00 o’clock, and two in the 8:00 o’clock positions. I
drilled these with 2.0 mm bioabsorbable push lock anchors into
place loaded with 3-0 Vicryl guide sutures. I did this to the
patella, as well, placing four both medially and laterally,
superiorly and inferiorly. I then prepared the oval graft on the
medial femur as I made the template and trimmed this to fit. I
placed sutures through the top and bottom and the sides, and then
held in placed as I tied these and cut this. This was secured
anchored and then I placed additional fixation through the graft
and not through the articular cartilage with 3-0 Vicryl sutures.
This anatomically reduced this graft. This was rinsed with
antibiotic saline and then dried. I then used fibrin glue to glue
the edges around this and hold it for five minutes and then
brought it into full extension. I then focused my attention to
the patella. I placed a circular Cartiform graft with the bone
side down, cartilage side up, and sutured the path of sutures
through the mediolateral superior and inferior holes in the
Cartiform graft and then tied these down, anatomically holding
this. In addition, in the periphery, I placed additional suture
fixations at the corners diagonally, which gave very secure
fixation. I then used fibrin glue to glue the edges of this down,
as well. Finally, I used 1 mL of biocartilage granules and mixed
this with 0.8 mL of pure bone marrow aspirate, mixed it, and used
the slurry past to fill in the defect. I made this almost flush
with the articular cartilage surfaces and contoured the trochlear
groove appropriately. Once this was set, I used fibrin glue to
cover over this defect carefully. I left this for five minutes.
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It should be noted that at 90 minutes, I deflated the tourniquet,
which was during the Cartiform grafting of the patella. I
achieved hemostasis with Bovie electrocautery and then completed
the remainder of the procedure without tourniquet.
*
Once all these were closed, I irrigated slightly. I placed 20 mL
of Exparel with 20 mL of 0.5% plain saline and 40 mL of 0.5%
plain Marcaine into the subcutaneous tissues and along the deep
periosteum, but out of the joint. I then closed the arthrotomy
with #2 MaxBraid inverted interrupted sutures and #1 Vicryl
interrupted sutures between these. I then irrigated and closed
the subcutaneous tissue with 2-0 Vicryl interrupted sutures. I
did place a 10 round Jackson-Pratt drain in the subcutaneous
tissue in the lateral gutter. It should be noted that I did do a
slight lateral retinacular lengthening by superficially cutting
through portion of the superficial lateral capsular structures
leaving this since there was a little tilt on the x-ray. The skin
was then closed with 3-0 V-Loc running intracuticular sutures and
the skin was glued shut with Dermabond and Prineo mesh. The knee
arthroscopy portals were infiltrated with the Exparel solution,
as well and closed with 3-0 nylon sutures. I did suture above and
below the drain with 3-0 nylon sutures and then Steri-Stripped
this down. The patient was kept in full extension and dressed
with Telfa, 4 x 4s, ABD pads, cast padding, and Ace wraps. It
should be noted that I put the platelet poor plasma into the
subcutaneous tissue and over the tissues for postoperative wound
healing properties. Blood loss was about 200 mL. The patient
tolerated the procedure well. The patient was then dressed with
cast padding, 6 inch Ace wrap, toe-to-thigh, and placed in a leg
immobilizer, locked in full extension. There were no other
complications. The postoperative plan of care will be
non-weight-bearing and locked in full extension for five days to
let the Cartiform cells adhere as well as the biocartilage to
adhere and then plan to start passive range of motion, 0-50, for
the first three weeks, followed by passive range of motion, 0-70,
for two weeks, followed by 0-90.
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Abdominal Wall Abscess- Exploration of abdominal wall with debridement and drainage

Just trying to feel a bit more secure in coding this one. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks in advance!!

PREOPERATIVE DIAGNOSIS:
Abdominal wall abscess.
POSTOPERATIVE DIAGNOSIS:
Abdominal wall abscess involving urethral sling.

PROCEDURE PERFORMED:
Exploration of abdominal wall with debridement and drainage.

DESCRIPTION OF PROCEDURE:
The patient was taken to the OR. After induction of adequate general anesthesia, the patient was prepped with Betadine and draped sterilely. The abscess was slightly to the right of midline extending from across the symphysis towards the right mons and labia. The incision was made to the right of midline, carried down through subcutaneous tissue. Upon entering the cavity, foul-smelling frothy fluid exuded. Cultures for anaerobic and anaerobic were taken. There was necrotic tissue underneath. Extensive debridement was performed tunneling to the left of midline along the pubic ramus was noted and then significantly towards the labia and then also towards the right anterior superior iliac spine. The area was well debrided completely open with no residual necrotic tissue appreciated. In the base of the wound, the sling was noted. The thinned end of polypropylene was easily detached on the left side, but as well secured to the right of midline and tunneling down towards the introitus in the urethra. It was still well attached. Decision was not to more aggressively pull on this but to tag it with 0 silk suture and __________ that proper debridement of all areas were performed. The debridement extended from the skin through all subcutaneous tissue down to the pubic ramus and symphysis. The fascia was exposed. The area of debridement measured approximately 15 cm x 12 cm. The
patient’s wound was packed with Kerlix and a dry sterile dressing. She was taken to recovery room in stable condition.

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