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Billing 99211 for subsequent wound care sessions

Before anything else, THANK YOU for your kind attention & hopefully you could respond to my dilemma.

According to the CPT manual, a 99211 is an office or other outpatient visit “that may not require the presence of a physician. Usually, the presenting problem(s) are minimal. Typically, five minutes are spent performing or supervising these services.” Unlike the rest of the office visit codes, 99211 does not have any documentation requirements for the history, physical exam or complexity of medical decision making. The nature of the presenting problem need be only “minimal,” such as monthly B-12 injections, suture removal, dressing changes, allergy injections with observation by a nurse, and peak flow meter instruction. (For more examples, see Appendix D of the CPT manual.)

Scenario. In our outpatient hospital wound care setting, the subsequent wound care sessions consist of wound care dressing changes by the RN usually 20 sq cm area of wound, ankle brachial pressure index readings by the RN for 15 minutes, and a referral back to the surgeon for his advice/opinion on the case. The surgeon (MD) signs off on the clinical documentation of the encounter. The entire session lasts no less than 25 minutes, and on average 30 minutes. Will still be considered a 99211 billing?

Please advise.

Thank you again.

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Foley just to allow wound healing

Our Director of Nursing has placed a Foley cath so a patient can stay in bed while a pressure ulcer heals. I’ve coded the foley and the pressure ulcer, but she also wants a code to show that the foley is for wound healing. I’m coming up empty…I don’t think it exists. Anyone else have the same type of issue?

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wound debridement

patient presented with necrotizing fascitis. This is the first of three surgeries performed. Dictation states to fascia and muscle. I would love to use CPT 11004 11005 but it is not for extremities. I am not sure how to break down 11043 and 11046 to get to 120 cm. Any suggestions would be appreciate.

PREOPERATIVE DIAGNOSIS: Left arm abscess with concern for necrotizing soft tissue wound.
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POSTOPERATIVE DIAGNOSIS: Left arm necrotizing soft tissue wound.
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PROCEDURE: Left arm wound exploration measuring 25 x 10 x 4 cm with debridement of subcutaneous tissue and wound VAC placement.
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ANESTHESIA: General.
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SPECIMENS: Wound culture to microbiology.
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ESTIMATED BLOOD LOSS: Less than 50 mL.
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FINDINGS:
1. Small area of necrotic fat at the medial aspect of the left antecubital fossa and the area of gas collection on CT scan.
2. Diffuse edema throughout the soft tissue. No evidence of tracking infection along the fascia.
3. An area of induration to the contralateral arm (right arm antecubital fossa) was noted after the patient was then anesthetized. This was not fluctuant and no acute evidence of abscess. This is concerning for potential site of skin manipulation.
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INDICATIONS FOR PROCEDURE: The patient is a 31-year-old female who presented with severe onset of left arm pain over the past 48 hours. CT was obtained which revealed a gas collection at the medial aspect of the arm which was concerning for possible early necrotizing fasciitis. She had diffuse pain and edema to the upper and lower arm. Given these findings, surgical intervention was indicated. The risks, benefits and alternatives of procedure were discussed with the patient and she wished to proceed.
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DESCRIPTION OF THE PROCEDURE: The patient was taken to the operating room theater. She was placed in supine position. General anesthesia was induced. Preoperative antibiotics were administered. The patient’s left arm was then prepped and draped in normal sterile fashion. A lazy S incision was made along the medial aspect of the upper arm and then extending laterally in the lower arm. This was done to be able to access the area of greatest concern with the gas collection along the medial aspect near the antecubital fossa. Dissection was carried down with electrocautery. There was diffuse edema that was then expressed immediately with the incision through the subcutaneous tissues. A combination of blunt and sharp dissection was utilized. She has an area of a necrotic-appearing fat at this medial aspect of the area of greatest concern on CT scan. There was diffuse edema to the subcutaneous tissue, but no evidence of infection tracking along the fascial compartments. The fascia overlying the biceps in the upper arm was opened. There was no significant muscle bulging or evidence of pressure within this compartment. This was done likewise in the forearm and again all the edema was within the subcutaneous tissue and no evidence of excessive pressure within the muscular compartments. Hemostasis was achieved. With dissection of this involved area of concern, the proximal aspect of the cephalic vein in the forearm and in the distal aspect of the basilic vein in the upper arm were both exposed. There was no soft tissue to be able to close over these. Given this fact, after hemostasis was assured and then it was clear that all infectious process had been debrided and wound cultures have been obtained, an Adaptic was placed to the wound bed and wound VAC then applied.
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The patient tolerated the procedure well. There were no complications. All counts were correct as reported to me at the end of the case.
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Calculating Wound Sizes

Hello Everyone it has been quite sometime since I have had o calculate manually wound/Lesion sizes. Does anyone have a guide or know of a tutorial to help refresh or teach me how to complete this process. I work for a Dermatologists and Plastic Surgeon so a great deal of calculations. Thank you all in advance of provide some examples that I may have to use as a guide. 😀

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Post op – wound check post mohs and xenograft repair. Previously diagosed ssc in-situ

A patient previously diagnosed with squamous cell carcinoma in-situ comes in for post op wound check post Mohs and Xenograft repair. Would diagnosis be the SSC in-situ of the location specified with post-op wound check Z48.89 or would it be history of skin cancer and Z48.89?:confused:

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Wound Care in SNF/NF by CRNP Certified in Wound care

We have a CRNP who is certified in wound care that will be contracting with our corporate office to be the Wound Care Nurse at
7 SNF. Can we bill for her services if she does a procedure or does that fall under the facility billing? This question was
posed to me by the Corporate Office, and I don’t know what to tell them. Any help would be truly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
Dianne Scavarda,CPC

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Dog Bite Wound Care

Need a little clarification on coding a Dog Bite. We have a Healthcare office & Urgent Care all in one. This one came in under urgent care. Here is the notes from the encounter:

Location: right lower leg posterior calf region. The wound was irrigated with sterile normal saline and debrided of any foreign material or devitalized tissue. Bleeding controlled prior to arrival. Puncture marks closed with steri strip and covered with Telfa and secured with coban dressing. Sterile wound dressing applied. The patient tolerated procedure well. Wound care instructions were given, and patient was instructed to return for redness, warmth, or swelling of the skin, red streaking, pus, increasing pain, fevers, or any other signs or symptoms of infection.

Everything I am reading says that since steri strips were used that we can only code an E&M for wound repair, but does that include the "wound care/irrigation, etc?"

I’m new to this type of coding so just want to know how much we can actually bill.

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Wound Care coding book

Hello – I am trying to find a CPT coding book specific to wound care. I’ve found a book by TCI called "Coders’ Specialty Guide for IM/Wound Care/Endocrinology" but does anyone else recommend something different? I have 4 billers in my office that I need to find some resources for.

Thank you for your help!
Lisa Williamson, MA, CMOM
Practice Manager
Houston Center For Infectious Diseases
The Woodlands, TX
[email protected]

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